The Blue Dogs

Matt Stoller has thoughtfully provided a list of the ‘Blue Dog’ Democrats who are not firmly on board with Pelosi’s micromanagement of the war. He calls them ‘saboteurs’. I call them ‘Honorable Congressmember’ in the emails I’m sending them.

I bet a few encouraging letters from you folks might just help keep them on the right side.

Michael Arcuri (NY-24)
John Barrow (GA-12)
Melissa Bean (IL-08)
Dan Boren (OK-02)
Jim Cooper (TN-05)
Bud Cramer (AL-02)
Lincoln Davis (TN-04)
Joe Donnelly (IN-02)
Brad Ellsworth (IN-08)
Bob Ethridge (NC-02)
Kirsten Gillibrand (NY-20)
Baron Hill (IN-09)
Tim Mahoney (FL-16)
Jim Marshall (GA-08)
Mike McIntyre (NC-07)
Collin Peterson (MN-07)
John Salazar (CO-03)
Joe Sestak (PA-07)
Heath Shuler (NC-11)
Gene Taylor (MS-04)

The ‘300’ Rorschach Test Redux

Matt Yglesias leverages the film ‘the 300’ to explain that it’s based on our sympathy for all people who fight invading empires.

When you see it in a movie that aims to make the defenders out to be heroes, everyone sympathizes with this attitude. It’s called “patriotism,” it’s called “nationalism” and it’s the deadly enemy of empire-builders everywhere. People, simply put, don’t enjoy submitting to foreign domination, even to foreign domination that presents itself as well-intentioned — even to foreign domination that is in fact well-intentioned. Bush says America is merely midwifing the birth of a world of liberty, that “freedom is the Almighty God’s gift to each man and woman in this world,” and American power merely God’s servant. Xerxes makes it simpler and says he literally is a God. The movie even gives him a more-than-human voice to prove the point.

I probably would have let this pass except for the scare quotes around “patriotism” and “nationalism”, and my belief that this is a handy hook to hang an important point from. Yglesias actually makes a useful (and nuanced) point, and his post is worth reading – I’ll try and write about it tomorrow when I talk more about Tom Friedman – but he’s someone who seems incapable of saying patriotism without scare quotes, and without making the followup point that there are other patriotisms and that – like being a fan of a NFL team – they are equivalent.
What’s missing from Matt’s (actually nuanced) argument is one simple point; the Spartans are us – they are, literally, among the ancestors of this rickety enterprise we all know as Western Civilization, and so – beyond our affinity for their heroism, or their connection to the notion of freedom (for landowning nobles, at least) – we owe them a debt of patrimony.

Schaar from “On Patriotism” (yes, I know, I keep coming back to him..)

To be a patriot is to have a patrimony; or, perhaps more accurately, the patriot is one who is grateful for a legacy and recognizes that the legacy makes him a debtor. There is a whole way of being in the world, captured best by the word reverence, which defines life by its debts; one is what one owes, what one acknowledges as a rightful debt or obligation. The patriot moves within that mentality. The gift of land, people, language, gods memories, and customs, which is the patrimony of the patriot, defines what he or she is. Patrimony is mixed with person; the two are barely separable. The very tone and rhythm of a life, the shapes of perception, the texture of its homes and fears come from membership in a territorially rooted group. The conscious patriot is one who feels deeply indebted for these gifts, grateful to the people and places through which they come, and determined to defend the legacy against enemies and pass it unspoiled to those who will come after.

The reality is that the Persian Wars were one of the critical – and arguably the earliest recorded – ‘crossroads’ that were passed to bring us to this place. And that the battle of Thermopylae was a critical battle in winning that war. And so we owe them.

This notion of debt is personalized pretty neatly in Bruce Webster’s neat post.

And because of that I think that it’s – charitably – lame to criticize the notion that we should identify closely with the Spartans.

And not by virtue of a ‘Blut und Volk’ notion of ancestry, but because the cultural and political edifice we belong to had its roots in Greece, and I believe in Lincoln’s expression of the unique American patriotism that attaches us not to land or ancestry, but to that culture and political enterprise.

And on that note, I’ll suggest that Yglesias, who once set out his views on the American Revolution:

The real point, though, is this: Not be an left-wing America-hater about it all, or to deny that our Founders had some legitimate grievances* but in retrospect wouldn’t America and the world both be better off if the USA had remained more closely associated with the British Empire and her Commonwealth? After all, if the erstwhile “greatest generation” had gotten in on the Hitler-fighting action at the same time as Canada and Australia did, a whole lot of trouble could have been avoided. See also World War One.

In that light, it seems to me that while the Revolution should not be condemned, it is something to be regretted: a failure of Imperial policy and an inability of leaders on both sides of the Atlantic to work out some thorny governance and burden-sharing issues. Not much of an occasion for fireworks.

…predictably believes that the US can’t operate outside the structures of international agreements and laws.

Part of me is frustrated by this, and another has to acknowledge that he has something.

I just finished Thomas Friedman’s collection of columns – Longitudes and Attitudes – on the plane coming back from Las Vegas, and I’ll have to confess myself an unabashed Friedmanite (not enough to pay the New York Times…), and to acknowledge that my thinly-spread discomfort with Bush’s political eptitude is fully expressed in Friedman’s columns, and that Friedman anticipated that the long, arduous nation-building exercise in Iraq would require international legitimacy.

More on this later.

Community in Business and Conflct

I’m at the Corante/Shared Insights ‘Community 2.0‘ conference in Las Vegas, and having an interesting time hanging and meeting the various figures in the Web 2.0 world.

There’s an interesting intersection developing between my professional and blogging life developing here.

I’ve talked for a long time about the political implications of the kinds of ’emergent management’ which is represented by the kind of projects these people are engaged in growing. It’s also highly relevant to the issues important to the Winds audience, as John Robb points out in his latest post at Global Guerrillas.

Now I’ll disagree with some of the more extreme evangelists here in Vegas who believe that everything in business will be dissolved into a soup of community, just as I’ll disagree with Robb when he says that the guerilla ‘Bazaar of Violence’ poses almost insurmountable challenges to traditional states. What I argue will happen is that the Web 2.0 challenge to major businesses – like newspapers – is that newspapers share will decline enough that they can no longer act as a monopoly in setting prices for ads.

Similarly, states will see that their monopoly on legitimacy will be challenged, and states with weak legitimacy will find themselves declining as they can’t maintain the level of legitimacy necessary to function.

That’s the pivotal question, and it’s both an issue I’ll be dealing with professionally (in a business environment) and as a citizen and blogger (here).

March 2003

So what was I writing in March 2003?? Damn, I was writing a lot…

In chronological order, with quotes as strike me…

More Maine

Before we accuse the Maine administrators of ‘protecting child abusing teachers’, let’s prove that the abuse is happening, that it isn’t an aberration, but a pattern. If it is, let’s root it out.

But until we provide some hard evidence, we’re the ones out on a limb here.

Risk and Reality (Part 3/6)

It’s insane. We make bets each time we make a decision based on risk. We bet that the bank will be solvent, the car safe, the medicine will work without ill effect. But we’re choosing to make the sucker bets while leaving all the winning bets unmade. No wonder we’re going broke.

Foolishness in My Hometown

It’s mindblowingly frustrating for me, that as I become increasingly convinced that Bush and his Administration are mendacious and lack the real clarity of moral vision and ability to broaden and sell that vision that is required to deal with the current world situation, I become more convinced that the people who oppose his policy are morons. It doesn’t leave me with a lot of places to stand on this.

Goody!

“And so Bergreen is pounding the pavements of Washington, looking for money and support for a new organization, to be called Democrats for National Security. “The problem,” says Doug Wilson, a former Clinton Pentagon official who counts himself among Bergreen’s supporters, “is to be able to say ‘Democrats for national security’ and not have people think it’s an oxymoron.”

More Teachers

I don’t want people to think – just because I’m a bit skeptical of the level of fervor around the Maine reports – that I don’t believe that teachers can be strongly antiwar and antimilitary and then act inappropriately on their feelings.

The Liberal Hawk

1) We won’t take Iraqi oil as booty;

2) We will work to wean ourselves from Middle Eastern oil through efficiency and domestic sources (but this time, unlike the Alaska pipeline, we won’t lie to Congress and the people and go sell the oil to Japan)

3) We’re in this for the duration.

Our Phoney-Baloney Jobs

Jewish organizations condemned Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.) today for delivering what they said were anti-Semitic remarks at an anti-war forum in Reston, in which he suggested that American Jews are responsible for pushing the country to war with Iraq and that Jewish leaders could prevent war if they wanted…

Moran: A Weak Response

Folks, we on the left have an obligation not to sit still for this nonsense. Many of the anti-Semites in the Democratic Party get a free ride on the issue because they are black, and the cost of taking on that fight is huge. Here’s a low-hanging fruit, and I’m going to kick and scream on this for a while.

Moran Again

Look, I’m not calling for the guy to resign; the voters in Virginia do and should pick their Representative.

But the guy is clearly a sleaze (on his better days) and deficient in several kinds of judgment.

Squandering Moral Capital

But better, it serves as a springboard in talking about my disinterest in hearing what the French and Germans have to say about Iraq and the Middle East.

They have had forty years to step up and lead the world toward a resolution of the Arab-Israeli conflicts. They have had ten years to lead the world toward a resolution of the issues around Iraq. And they haven’t done a damn thing.

And now, when the moment to act is at hand, when if they can’t stand with the U.S., they should be coming up with some realistic third way they hide behind a fig leaf of proceduralism and bless a reluctant sham of compliance that was only granted – grudgingly – by Iraq as U.S. tanks and carriers moved into position over the objection of the French and Germans.

The Sound of Freedom

Rancho Palos Verdes is one of the wealthy communities just up the hill from where I live. Apparently the possibility that Marines might conduct live-fire training on an abandoned theme park there…as they have done many times in the past…is just too anxiety-provoking for them to deal with.

Good News on a Friday – Moran Steps Down As Asst. Whip

Here’s one where the mainstream press was ahead of the liberal blogosphere; something I’ll dig into and comment upon at some point.

More Good News on a Friday – the Marines are Coming!

I think the Marines will be getting the cooperation they need…

On Being a Liberal Hawk

And a part of what I have realized is that as long as states – particularly wealthy states – are willing to explicitly house terrorists and their infrastructure, or implicitly turn a blind eye to their recruitment and funding, we can’t use the kind of ‘police’ tactics that worked against Baader-Meinhof or the Red Army Faction. The Soviet Union and it’s proxies offered limited support to these terrorist gangs, but they didn’t have a national population to recruit from and bases and infrastructure that only a state can provide.

So unless we shock the states supporting terrorism into stopping, the problem will get worse. Note that it will probably get somewhat worse if we do…but that’s weather, and I’m worried about climate.

But Bush has failed to sell this war in three arenas.

He has failed to sell it (as well as it should have been) to the U.S. people. The reality of 9/11 has sold this war, and our atavistic desire for revenge is the engine that drives the support that Bush actually has.

He has failed to sell it diplomatically. Not that he could have ever gotten the support of France or Germany; as noted above, even with an AmEx receipt for the 9/11 plane tickets signed by Saddam himself, France would find a reason to defer this war. But he should never have let them get the moral high ground, which they have somehow managed to claim.

He has failed to sell it to our enemies, who do not believe today that we are serious about achieving our stated goals. This is, to me the most serious one, because the perception that we are not deadly serious is a perception that we are weak; and we will have to fight harder, not because we are too strong, but because we will be perceived as too weak.

The Day of the War

But most of all, today, I want to send my own best wishes out to the men and women from our military and the U.K.’s and Australia’s, and whoever else is marching, riding, or flying alongside them. Be brave, be honorable, be careful, be successful; come home to us safe and proud.

Thank you all for defending us all.

The War On Bad Philosophy 2

The void filled with Byronic passion is what Qutb means to fill; we in the West have a set of secular values to fill them, but they are out of favor now.

They may need to come back.

Oh, Hans…

[Belated update: I eat crow for not updating this as no evidence of chemical weapons was found at the plant]

Dissent

But I think the real reason goes to the underlying process, and the desire of the self-selecting protesters not to join in and possibly win a national dialog, but to meet some needs for moral cleanliness and managing one’s identity by confronting authority.

Dissent’s Root

Is there some greater moral weight that we can give to evil (or good, for that matter) when doing it, rather than fighting it, is a matter of social policy?

People like my friend think not. They see themselves an entrapped in a world of evil, where every action carries with it, not the possibility of hope and the risk of tragedy, but the certainty of failure.

And if we are ever going to be conquered, this is what will do it.

Pour l’encourager les autres

It’s never good to be made an example of, except a) when you deserve it, and b) when you learn something from it.

Hmmm. What would I take back (other than the obvious one that I did?). Not sure. What do you think I would/should walk back from?

What I Read

Periodically it’s worth it to show people what I’m reading, both in the hopes that there’s something they’ll find interesting and in the hopes that people will suggest something else that I might find interesting (plus it’s useful, I think, to know what writers are reading to understand what led them to where they are).

So without further ado, here’s my Bloglines feed list.

Comment away, and I’d encourage other bloggers to do the same thing.

‘300’

…opens tonight, and we have tickets at the Bridge theater near the airport.

Based on the comic, I got one for Littlest Guy as well, but on reading the reviews, I’m getting kinda doubtful that it’s appropriate for a 10 year old – even a mature one. The family will be discussing that today…

But one interesting thing popped up as I read the available reviews (many linked at www.rottentomatoes.com); the astounding historical and cultural ignorance of most film critics.

Kenneth Turan of the LA Times was the only one who ‘got’ the historical context of Thermopylae (even though he didn’t like the movie). Sheesh. You’d think that people who write about culture for a living would know something about it, wouldn’t you?

And the layering of modern politics and political correctness (see the Slate review by Dana Stevens for a pluperfect example) is kind of funny. The war was, after all, factually between the Greeks (pretty much the founders of the West) and the Persians, so yes, more-or-less white people fought more-or-less brown ones. Is that racist? How do we deal with history, then?

Road Trip

Road Trip

So got back yesterday at 3am after driving from Chicago with Biggest Guy after starting Monday at 10am.

A few notes:

1) As BG learned to his dismay, when you’re the only car on the road at 1am, even a Valentine One is no defense against instant-on radar.

2) The sauce at Arthur Bryant’s is still too vinegary, but the meat is just as damn good as ever (one of the four pictures I took on the trip was of our plates…).

3) You can’t help but talk about stuff when you’re driving 2,000 miles.

4) I’m too damn old to do four hours of sleep three nights in a row and then walk in and work all day.

Getting caught up at work and here.

Eppur si muove

Last week, my intellectual betters, Peter Bienert and Bjorn Staerk both posted apologies for their early support of the Iraq war.

So, let me open by suggesting that in spite of my desire to find a way out of this, I’m really unimpressed by both Bienert’s and Staerk’s posts.

In Bienert’s case, it’s a national apology; the United States simply isn’t good enough, darn it, to be allowed to go around the world and hurt people and change things.

It begins with a painful realization about the United States: We can’t be the country those Iraqis wanted us to be. We lack the wisdom and the virtue to remake the world through preventive war. That’s why a liberal international order, like a liberal domestic one, restrains the use of force–because it assumes that no nation is governed by angels, including our own. And it’s why liberals must be anti-utopian, because the United States cannot be a benign power and a messianic one at the same time. That’s not to say the United States can never intervene to stop aggression or genocide. It’s not even to say that we can’t, in favorable circumstances and with enormous effort, help build democracy once we’re there. But it does mean that, when our fellow democracies largely oppose a war–as they did in Vietnam and Iraq–because they think we’re deluding ourselves about either our capacities or our motives, they’re probably right. Being a liberal, as opposed to a neoconservative, means recognizing that the United States has no monopoly on insight or righteousness. Some Iraqis might have been desperate enough to trust the United States with unconstrained power. But we shouldn’t have trusted ourselves.

In Staerk’s case, it’s more personal.

This mirror of “What Went Wrong” wouldn’t be a story on the same scale, but it has the main theme in common. It would be about Westerners who had their reality bubble pricked by people from an alien culture, and spent the next couple of years stumbling about like idiots, unable to deal rationally with this new reality that had forced itself on them. Egging each other on, they predicted, interpreted, and labeled – and legislated and invaded. They saw clearly, through beautiful ideas. And they were wrong.

Who were these people? They were us. “Us”? This seemed a lot clearer at the time. Us were the people who acknowledged the threat of Islamist terrorism, who had the common sense to see through the multicultural fog of words, and the moral courage to want to change the world by force. It included politicians like George W. Bush and Tony Blair, it included the new European right, it included brave and honest pundits, straight-talking intellectuals in the enlightenment tradition.

There is a nexus of failure in each case; Bienert explains that he was intoxicated by hope;

I was willing to gamble, too–partly, I suppose, because, in the era of the all-volunteer military, I wasn’t gambling with my own life. And partly because I didn’t think I was gambling many of my countrymen’s. I had come of age in that surreal period between Panama and Afghanistan, when the United States won wars easily and those wars benefited the people on whose soil they were fought. It’s a truism that American intellectuals have long been seduced by revolution. In the 1930s, some grew intoxicated with the revolutionary potential of the Soviet Union. In the 1960s, some felt the same way about Cuba. In the 1990s, I grew intoxicated with the revolutionary potential of the United States.

Staerk is ashamed of his amateurishness

Among the bloggers there was a sense that there were all these brilliant people, who knew so much about history, war and society, who had previously been without the tools to express themselves. Thanks to the wonders of amateur media, we could now finally exploit this huge reservoir of expert knowledge. And when you contrasted the lazy neutrality of the old media with the energy of the new, it certainly could seem that way. Here were people who regularly would write thousands of words about the historical context of Islamist terrorism, who could write brilliantly about freedom and democracy, who commented boldly on the long trends of history. How could such people be wrong?

But what we saw was not expert knowledge, but the well-written, arrogantly presented ideas of half-educated amateurs. This, too, went all the way from the bottom to the top. It often struck us how well the writing of the best of the bloggers measured up to that of pro-war pundits and intellectuals. We thought this showed how professional the amateurs were, when what it really told us was how amateurish the professionals were.

Each of these apologies makes me think hard about my own positions. I’m not the smartest or best-informed person on the planet, and I make it a habit to look for people smarter and better-informed than I am to try and learn from. But one thing adulthood has brought to me is the observation that smart and well-informed people are often amazingly blind to obvious facts. The list of geopolitical analysts who predicted the peaceful implosion of the Soviet Union was damn short, and if you had polled the Conventional Wisdom for the twenty years up to the fall of the Wall, I don’t think it would have mapped well to reality. When Nixon flew to China, how many people thought a Chinese technology company would be buying IBM’s personal computer business?

Accepting that your ideas about the world can be – and often are – wrong is critical to being any kind of a useful or serious thinker.

So where does that leave me in my own position on Iraq?

There’s an easy out that I can take…in 2003, I wrote:

So if the Democrats want a response to the war, here it is:

#. We won’t take Iraqi oil as booty;
#. We will work to wean ourselves from Middle Eastern oil through efficiency and domestic sources (but this time, unlike the Alaska pipeline, we won’t lie to Congress and the people and go sell the oil to Japan)
#. We’re in this for the duration.

If we can’t answer all three as a solid “yes”, we shouldn’t go. We should just close out eyes, hunker down and hope for the best.

If we can, we should. We’re in a fight, and wishing it away won’t make it disappear.

We aren’t meeting any of the 3 criteria, so I could throw my hands in the air and say “well, we didn’t do it like I said, so it was wrong and we shouldn’t have done it” and go stand with the cool kids.

But that would be a bullshit answer.

Sadly, as hard as I look, so are Bienert’s and Staerk’s. Neither of them looks at the situation in the world and argues how it would have been better had we refrained in Iraq.

Look, the jihadi movement feeds on a base stock of alienated, unhappy young men who are discovering the attractive power of Bad Philosophy (as opposed to Bad Religion, which is one of my favorite bands…). They are attracted when they see it as a noble struggle – so yes, the war is attracting them to the movement.

But they are also attracted to winning; and a steady stream of jihadi victories against Western interests – answered with arrests of the perps and pinprick attacks – is as powerful a recruiting tool as a call to battle. In fact, I’ll suggest that it was historically a more powerful one.

Yes, the United States isn’t morally pure enough to remake the world through preventative war. But we are morally pure enough – wise and virtuous enough to go kick jihadi ass, and maybe, just maybe create the space for a decent society to grow up in a few places around the world.

Hilzoy also had a powerful article last week that ties to this –

It seemed to me that at the heart of this disagreement was this one fact: that the women from India were from a country that had already achieved independence, and were living with the problems that came afterwards, whereas the women from South Africa were trying to achieve that self-government in the first place. The South Africans seemed to think that the women from India had forgotten what it was like to be subjugated. We need to win our freedom as quickly as possible, they seemed to say. We realize that it would be preferable to win that freedom in the best possible way. If we could win it just as quickly through non-violent means, we would surely do so. But you would not ask us to wait if you really understood what it is like to live in slavery.

By contrast, many of the arguments made by the Indians turned on the effects that achieving self-government through violence had on one’s own people. Don’t do this, they seemed to be saying: once you win your freedom, you will find that you and your people have grown accustomed to settling disputes by force and to demonizing your opponents. Think now about how to use the struggle you are waging to teach yourselves how to become citizens and to practice self-government. Do not wait until you win your independence to discover that self-government requires not just political power, but political responsibility.

I think that’s an incredibly important point. I’ve talked endlessly in the past about the notion that a Palestinian Gandhi would have not only attained independence for the Palestinians but would have built a viable and admirable society. And about the notion that a violent kleptocracy cannot easily transform itself into a democracy just because they vote (something I neglected when I watched the Iraqi elections…).

But here’s the rub – Gandhi himself felt that German Jews should have protested nonviolently even it meant they were all slaughtered.

Nonviolent action builds the bonds trust that make a civil society. But how do you practice nonviolent action in the face of those who lack any compunction about killing? There is the $64,000 question.

The only answer I can see is that a space for it must be somehow created by violence.

To paraphrase Team America, sometimes you need dicks in the world.

Which brings us neatly back to Iraq.

We’ve opened the seam of instability in the Middle East, that’s for sure. And I could see why that’s an issue. Except…we’ve had a ‘quasi-stability’ for the last 30 years there. And what, exactly, has it bought us?

Thirty years of peace, to be sure. And a bigger and more violent jihadi movement.

We could have just invaded Afghanistan – but what then? Do you think it would be better with 100,000 more US troops? Do you think that Iran (and Iraq) wouldn’t be funding an insurgency there in the hopes that we’d walk down the same path as the Soviets?

Would the world really be better? If someone can make a good argument about that, I would have to shift. Until then I am stuck here, calling it as best I see it, and looking to see more clearly.

Dean’s World: Discuss

Dean Esmay has a new post up explaining (somewhat) his new stance on Islamophobes, as well as a post directly addressed to me about his decision and my post on it.

He suggests – and I agree – that some dialog around this issue would be a good thing.

I’ll reaffirm: I think that the central problem of the current historical moment is the war within Islam. I think that war is between adherents of a traditional religion, and one that has cross-pollinated with some of the less-desirable features of Bad Philosophy to create an inherently dangerous and highly attractive response to modernity in the West and to oppression and hopelessness in much of the Arab world.

If the bad guys win – and they may – Islam will be transformed into what it’s enemies today say it is. And we’ll have some significant problems.

That hasn’t happened yet, and because it hasn’t happened yet it’s worth doing two things – 1) not treating Muslims as though they are automatically Bad Guys – even if they don’t like us and their interests are opposed to ours. Much of human history has involved the ways that cultures that disagree and compete manage to live together without mass slaughter…and 2) figuring out what, if anything, we can do from here that will weaken the Bad Guys and strengthen the good ones.

Yeah, that’s Western-centric and implies that we get to decide who’s good and bad…and that issue itself will be an interesting topic for discussion.

But I think that Dean is right when he says that Islam is not, itself the problem … today. And further, when he suggests that going down the path to Islamophobia today is dangerous, because it makes the ‘clash of civilizations’ more, not less likely. And he’s wrong when he fails to recognize that Islam is the locus of the problem, and that finding a way to deal with the changes Islam is going through – and to contain the energy those changes will release – is a central and legitimate task today.

Do I agree with commenter Jim Rockford here when he responds that the root of all our problems in the Middle East today is Islam? No. Do I agree with something I read into Dean’s posts (which may not be there) which suggests that it has no part of the problem, and that things in the ummah are hunky-dory? No.

So let’s discuss this.