Dan Hartung, over at lake effect: a weblog, has a good post on the number of European refugees who were resettled in WW’s I and II.
Take a look, and decide for yourself how to fit the current issues into history…and whether it is ‘racism’ that we are dealing with.
(link thanks to War Liberal)
Porphyrogenitus fails to live up to his blog title (“Ranting Screeds”) once again, in putting together a thoughful and informed discussion of the structure of the E.U. and some likely consequences.
Shameful business, as my son says. We are becoming rant-deprived…
Commenter Ziska writes:
The guerrilla war/ terrorism distinction escapes me. The difference, as far as I know, is that you can have terrorism without guerrilla warfare (mostly because you can’t manage guerrila war) but that you seldom have guerrilla warfare without terrorism.
Well, you’ve got part of it. Terrorist tactics are a subset of guerilla tactics, but applied without the military discipline or tactical and strategic intent. Typically guerilla tactics will focus on the actual forces of the opponents…in this case, it would be Israeli military outposts, reservists staging areas, etc….while what we are seeing is attacks against photogenic targets of opportunity. In my mind, there’s a significant difference in the moral standing of the two, as noted in my post earlier.
I’m not at all convinced that non-violence would work in Israel/Palestine, or that it worked in India, or that it worked anywhere. There was also a violent resistance in India, and England had many practical reasons to exit.
You’re kidding, right? As long as the Indian Revolt was violent, supressing it maintained huge support in England, despite the fact that colonies were simply no longer economically viable. If tyou read the contemporary accounts, it was Gandhi’s campaign which unlocked the English opposition, and allowed them to move to the center of the political stage.
One form of “moral parity” that I would argue is that if a tactic being used by some present insurgent group was also used by some successful insurgent group in the past, one that has been admitted to the family of nations such as Ireland, Israel, and Algeria, then we must find some additional reason for denouncing the present-day group. Not just because of the tactic.
Again, I’ll suggest that you review your history. My late father-in-law fought with the French in Algeria (as well as Indochina), and he and I had a number of discussions about both, and about the tactics used by and against the French in both cases. Terror was used by the FLN against the Pied-Noir leadership, and to enforce discipline and secrecy within the FLN (and doubtless to purge the occasional political rival within the FLN) but primarily it was a straight-ahead guerilla war against the French military itself. Ireland waged war primarily against the British colonial apparatus (including the tax-collectors) and the much-hated landlord class.
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Damn, I’ve had this address less than two months…
Why are you looking at your computer?? Go play with your kids…we’re off to the beach, the art museum, and maybe the bookstore…
You loser. You incredible loser. You dont have a single cell of taste in your whole body. Not a cell, not a mitochondria, not even a virus. You should get out of the movie business tonight and go work at a 99 cent store where they sell cheap-ass rejects, because the movie you recommended to me tonight was the worst castoff reject-laden piece of shit Ive seen since Supertroopers, and my FIFTEEN YEAR OLD SON even apologized for making me see that. This move had the stupidest script Ive seen in years, most of the acting was phoned in, except for the lead, who appears to have gone to the Al Pacino School For Cheap Overemoting for this film. The writer/director didnt miss a cheap or obvious opportunity in the script, and the producer
the same guy, coincidentally, who forgot to spend more than the 99 cents like the stuff you should be selling instead of working on movies on special effects WHICH WERE CRUCIAL TO THE FILM.
Not only do you owe me the $18 I spent on tickets, but I want the $400 I would have billed for the time, as well. What a god-damn unbelievable loser you are for recommending this film, and so are all the stupid loser people who are making it the biggest film in the country right now
What are you doing for dinner Tuesday? Want to come over?
As you may guess, we saw Signs last night.
I did manage to crack up a few people in the lobby as I was calling my brother and leaving this message as we walked out. And the group of teenagers who walked out in front of us has the classic comment Jeez, we should have seen XXX. No s**t, kids, you should have.