{"id":1684,"date":"2008-03-21T03:43:36","date_gmt":"2008-03-21T03:43:36","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2008-03-21T03:44:33","modified_gmt":"2008-03-21T03:44:33","slug":"its_blst_day_at","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=1684","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s B**ls**t Day At Josh Marshall&#8217;s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m generally pretty admiring of Josh Marshall; he&#8217;s an unabashed partisan but usually one with a fair respect for facts and sense.<\/p>\n<p>Today, not so much.<\/p>\n<p>First, he gets spun by Juan Cole&#8217;s mistranslation of the Iranian threat to Israel. Here&#8217;s Marshall citing Cole:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>According to Farsi-speaking commentators including Juan Cole, a professor of Middle Eastern history at the University of Michigan, Ahmadinejad&#8217;s exact quote was, &#8220;The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.&#8221; Cole has written that Ahmadinejad was not calling for the &#8220;Nazi-style extermination of a people,&#8221; but was expressing the wish that the Israeli government would disappear just as the shah of Iran&#8217;s regime had collapsed in 1979.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When Cole made his post, a commenter <a href=\"http:\/\/www.windsofchange.net\/archives\/an_iranian_talks_about_coles_farsi_skillz.php\" target=\"browser\">here at Winds<\/a> took him to school:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>I am Iranian, and I can tell you Cole is wrong.<\/p>\n<p>\nLet&#8217;s start with simple fact, that is not directly relevant. He writes that Khomaini said the Shah government &#8220;must go&#8221;. But &#8220;az bain bayad berad&#8221; does not mean &#8220;go&#8221;, it litterarly mean something like &#8220;must cease to exist&#8221;, and the most direct translation would be &#8220;must be destroyed&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>\nNow to the latter part:<\/p>\n<p>\n&#8220;bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad&#8221;<br \/>\nThe translation is not perfect, the dear Professor is not convewing the action implyied the sentence, as I or any Iranian would read it.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So Cole errs, or lies, and somehow it becomes a part of the historical record&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Next <a href=\"http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/184558.php\" target=\"browser\">he catches McCain<\/a> in a double-secret intellectual jujitsu hold.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>&#8230;But that&#8217;s really secondary to the real issue which is that the strategic aim of the surge has failed. It&#8217;s fastened us down even more firmly in Iraq whereas the aim was to jumpstart a political process in the country that would allow us to begin to disengage.<\/p>\n<p>\nThese points are completely lost on McCain. A savvy campaign should be able to make McCain&#8217;s failure to understand the surge&#8217;s failure into a potent political issue.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So the disagreement becomes a flat disagreement over facts; the problem, of course is that this presupposes that the issue isn&#8217;t whether McCain disagrees &#8211; because we&#8217;ve already assumed facts that make McCain wrong &#8211; so no debate is possible or even desirable.<\/p>\n<p>The last time I saw intellectual jujitsu that slick was last week, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/templates\/story\/story.php?storyId=88520025\" target=\"browser\">when the data showed that the oceans were stubbornly not warming up<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>Some 3,000 scientific robots that are plying the ocean have sent home a puzzling message. These diving instruments suggest that the oceans have not warmed up at all over the past four or five years. That could mean global warming has taken a breather. Or it could mean scientists aren&#8217;t quite understanding what their robots are telling them.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The title says it all.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1684"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1684"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1684\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1684"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1684"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1684"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}