{"id":2241,"date":"2010-02-08T21:09:42","date_gmt":"2010-02-08T21:09:42","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2010-02-08T21:10:26","modified_gmt":"2010-02-08T21:10:26","slug":"cars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=2241","title":{"rendered":"Cars"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<form mt:asset-id=\"161\" class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\" style=\"display: inline;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"NGV_small.JPG\" src=\"http:\/\/www.windsofchange.net\/media\/NGV_small.JPG\" width=\"480\" height=\"326\" class=\"mt-image-center\" style=\"text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;\" \/><\/form>\n<p>\nWe went car-buying on Friday.<\/p>\n<p>The last time was in 2006, when we sold our minivan and bought a Civic Hybrid.<\/p>\n<p>We didn&#8217;t want a Prius, because TG has an irrational (or given recent news, entirely rational&#8230;) dislike of Toyotas, and I didn&#8217;t like the idea of a &#8216;statement&#8217; car. We bought it, first and foremost, for the HOV lane stickers, but also because I thought it was neat technology, and because I do think that cutting back on our energy consumption in non-hair shirt ways is a good thing to do.<\/p>\n<p>Note that I really don&#8217;t see hybrids as all that environmentally benign, so our plate &#8211; ECO FROD &#8211; reflected that.<\/p>\n<p>Well, at the end of this year, the HOV stickers on hybrids expire, and probably won&#8217;t be renewed, and we&#8217;ve put 60,000 miles on ours with decent &#8211; not great, not terrible &#8211; results. We had to replace the main battery (warranty) but it was brain damage to get the local dealer &#8211; Scott Robinson Honda, who does Honda&#8217;s fleet cars (American Honda is here in Torrance) struggled for a bit to deal with the driveability problems caused by the dying battery, but once I escalated they were great in getting it all dealt with.<\/p>\n<p>So &#8211; no stickers soon, a car with hypercomplex technical systems and a so-so support chain. Sounds like time to reconsider what we&#8217;d do.<\/p>\n<p>I kicked the issue over to my frugality friend at Downturn Living, and she and her readers were clear that the frugal, economically sensible thing was to keep the car.<\/p>\n<p>So of course we decided not to.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, this Friday, we bought a new 2009 Honda Civic GX &#8211; a natural gas powered car.<\/p>\n<p>I was initially kind of anxious about a NGV &#8211; just that the logistics of refuelling are more complex (there are some 26 fuelling stations in the parts of Southern California where we typically go &#8211; and I worry that TG, who tends to run her vehicles on fumes would wind up getting towed.<\/p>\n<p>But I put them all into a map and loaded it into our Garmin, and so far &#8211; after 4 days and 300 miles &#8211; it&#8217;s been pretty darn easy.<\/p>\n<p>Home filling stations are (sort of) available &#8211; the Phill brand went BK and may be releaunched &#8211; but I&#8217;m unsure of the economics for someone who drives as little as we do. We do long trips, and the odds are that we&#8217;ll be renting more for that &#8211; I&#8217;d guess that 10K of the hybrid&#8217;s miles are on road trips.<\/p>\n<p>And the new car is interesting &#8211; really downmarket and defeatured compared to our hybrid, which not only has a leather interior but is in a far higher state of trim. It&#8217;s a real fleet car&#8230;just the basics. We&#8217;ll invest in a decent stereo and leave it at that, I&#8217;m thinking.<\/p>\n<p>We bought the car through our credit union&#8217;s car-buying service, and got a great deal on it. Thanks to Jeff Wyrick and Auto Expert Online&#8230;and over the next year or so I&#8217;ll report on our experience with it.<\/p>\n<p>Back in the 70&#8217;s I read Amory Lovin&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/0060906537?tag=armedliberal-20&#038;camp=213381&#038;creative=390973&#038;linkCode=as4&#038;creativeASIN=0060906537&#038;adid=147F6GCR73ZT7SJ3S7F8&#038;\" target=\"browser\">Soft Energy Paths<\/a> and noted his belief in building out a NG infrastructure as a transition plan to hydrogen. It made sense to me then&#8230;we&#8217;ll see if it makes sense now. <br \/>\n&#8211;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Armed Liberal buys a natural gas car&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2241"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2241"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2241\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2241"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2241"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2241"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}