{"id":2421,"date":"2011-02-01T18:44:46","date_gmt":"2011-02-01T18:44:46","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2011-02-01T18:49:19","modified_gmt":"2011-02-01T18:49:19","slug":"talking_about_e","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=2421","title":{"rendered":"Talking About Egypt"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I tend to side with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnas.org\/blogs\/abumuqawama\/2011\/01\/egypt-people-who-might-actually-know-what-theyre-talking-about-updated.htm\" target=\"browser\">Abu Muquama<\/a> and others who think it&#8217;s kind of dumb for Americans who don&#8217;t speak Arabic, haven&#8217;t lived in Egypt, etc. etc. to act like they have even one clue about what&#8217;s really going on there.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;.buuuuut, I do think it&#8217;s more than appropriate for the amateur commentariat to try and figure out what our interests are, and what are the best positions &#8211; given the lack of clarity about what&#8217;s going on &#8211; to defend and extend our interests.<\/p>\n<p>So what are our interests in Egypt (and in Tunisia, and Yemen, Syria, and Jordan)?<\/p>\n<p>Well, it seems like we have three core interests:<\/p>\n<p>1) Protecting the lives of the people in the region; anything that is likely to lead to widespread war &#8211; either among Arabs or between Arabs and Jews &#8211; is pretty safely a Bad Thing. Especially since the Jews are likely, if pressed too hard, to take things to a level where all bets will be off.<\/p>\n<p>One reason why it&#8217;s a bad idea to abandon Israel, is that the Israelis, feeling abandoned, may act less moderately, not more so (that&#8217;s ignoring the equities and moral issues between the two sides for the moment). Note that this also explains our absurd behavior toward Pakistan.<\/p>\n<p>2) Protecting the world economy; if Middle Eastern oil is unshippable, of the powers in the Middle east decide not to ship it for a bit, things will get quite dodgy everywhere else in the world.<\/p>\n<p>3) Keeping the crazy Islamists out of power; if we stipulate that there is a fundamentalist Islamist movement within Islam, and that that movement has significant ambitions to power both in the Arab world and the West, it&#8217;s safe to say that keeping them out of power is a good thing. This brings up the crux question which is are the Muslim Brotherhood part of that group or not? Here we have <a href=\"http:\/\/lynch.foreignpolicy.com\/posts\/2011\/01\/29\/obamas_handling_egypt_pretty_well\" target=\"browser\">Marc Lynch<\/a> on one side and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jihadwatch.org\/2011\/01\/spencer-muslim-brotherhood-poised-for-power-in-egypt.html\" target=\"browser\">Robert Spencer<\/a> on the other. A whole lot is going to depend on which one of them is right in the next year or two.<\/p>\n<p>What do you all think?<br \/>\n&#8211;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We may not know how to read the cards in Egypt, but we do have to bet on the game.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2421"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2421"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2421\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2421"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2421"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2421"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}