{"id":408,"date":"2004-04-06T18:33:53","date_gmt":"2004-04-06T18:33:53","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2006-09-28T12:08:33","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T12:08:33","slug":"a_correspondance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=408","title":{"rendered":"A Correspondance"},"content":{"rendered":"

Update:<\/b> Charles links over and a hockey match ensues in the comments below. More debate here, as Joe joins the scrimmage<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Folks, if you go to the comments, you’ll see that I’ve edited out a series of comments centering on the notion that LGF should be shut down or sanctioned because it promotes ‘hate speech’.<\/p>\n

Sorry, not on this pitch; that’s not a topic of discussion I’m interested in having on one of my posts. Regardless of my bias toward (or against) any blogger, I’m not in the business of shutting people down.<\/p>\n

If any of you post on this again, I may elect to ban you.<\/p>\n

For all the visitors from LGF, I’m glad you’re here and hope you stick around. Our place is somewhat different from Charles’; think biker bar and college bull session. Each of us (there are a bunch of authors here) control the comments on our threads, and I tend to be fairly ruthless in criticizing and at some point banning people who don’t want to make arguments, but want to have them instead. Hope you browse around and we’re interested in what you have to say.]<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n

I’ve been corresponding with ex-blogger (come baaack!!) and uber-commuter Ann Salisbury about the whole Kos issue, and snce she suggested it, I think I’ll just post our last emails:<\/p>\n

…I didn’t get the impression that Nathan was cheering by posting the pic, but setting it out there for what it was — which, in my mind, is tragedy, plain and simple.<\/p>\n

\nI can’t see any violence being “better” than another, but I can see “justified” or “more justified” violence. Self-defense and defense of others is usually “more justified,” but even the law in the United States requires that the perceived threat giving rise to the self-defense be a reasonable perception. (For example, “He looked at me funny,” just doesn’t do it.)<\/p>\n

Glad to see you’re working through the hard stuff – and I appreciate you sharing it, because it’s helping me to work through it too.<\/p>\n

-Ann<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This was in reply to my message:<\/p>\n

I’m breaking the issue into two basic areas:<\/p>\n

Is our violence better than their violence? And if so, why?<\/p>\n

What is the place of hate in conflict?<\/p>\n

I’ve met Charles, and he’s a liberal who was shocked by 9\/11 into reading Arab media, and shocked by what he saw there. I really do think he’s provided a service in opening that up to wider discussion, and I think he’s damaged the service that he does by allowing his comments to be as bile-filled as they are.<\/p>\n

I think that the good thing about our side is that we’re willing to accept the humanity of everyone – including our enemies, which is why we grieve, not cheer, at the picture on Nathan’s site. When we stop doing that – as Kos did, and as many of Charles’ commenters do, we erode our own standing.<\/p>\n

A.L.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I think that the good thing about our side is that we’re willing to accept the humanity of everyone. When we stop doing that – as Kos did, and as many of LGF’s commenters do, we erode our own standing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/408"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=408"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/408\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=408"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=408"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=408"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}