{"id":448,"date":"2004-07-13T19:54:36","date_gmt":"2004-07-13T19:54:36","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2006-09-28T12:08:40","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T12:08:40","slug":"an_earful_of_cider","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=448","title":{"rendered":"An Earful of Cider"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Blogger John Emerson, of &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/seetheforest.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"browser\">Seeing the Forest<\/a>&#8216; is raising a bet about the coming election. His (<a href=\"http:\/\/seetheforest.blogspot.com\/2004_07_01_seetheforest_archive.html#108959327244103312\" target=\"browser\">original<\/a>) bet is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>I&#8217;m willing to bet $50 at 30-to-one that we&#8217;ll see problems in the 2004 Presidential election as bad or worse than those in the 2000 election. Your $1500 says everything will be OK, my $50 says that there will be major problems &#8212; as bad as or worse than 2000.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He <a href=\"http:\/\/seetheforest.blogspot.com\/2004_07_01_seetheforest_archive.html#108964294798982962\" target=\"browser\">later<\/a> tightened it to:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>You are betting that none of the following will happen:<\/p>\n<p>1. Whoever is in office on Jan. 21, 2004 is not there because he&#8217;s been elected. Either Bush stays in, or a caretaker is appointed.<\/p>\n<p>2. The November election does not take place as scheduled, but is postponed.<\/p>\n<p>3. In a significant number of states (greater than the margin of victory) the vote in the electoral college is not based on a count of the votes (for example, the state legislature intervenes).<\/p>\n<p>4. Some unprecedented intervention decides the election, as in 2000.<\/p>\n<p>5. Major branches of government openly defy President Kerry and refuse to obey his orders.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve left out the &#8220;denial of legitimacy&#8221; point because there&#8217;s a 100% chance that many conservatives will not accept President Kerry&#8217;s legitimacy. [Ed. &#8211; would have been a nice touch if he&#8217;d added &#8216;&#8230;as many liberals have not accepted Bush&#8217;s.&#8217;]<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So what do I think? I think it&#8217;s a sucker bet, because &#8211; having seen that the courts and formerly ministerial process of vote-counting are now up for grabs &#8211; both sides are certainly making plans for their post-election campaigns.<\/p>\n<p>Unless it is a blowout election (which is possible, but not likely) both sides will launch stiff administrative and legal campaigns around the voting and vote-counting process, which means there&#8217;s a significant chance that the results will be delayed, and that the decision will be made at some level in the judicial system.<\/p>\n<p>This ignores the very real possibility of an election-eve terrorist attack. The U.S. isn&#8217;t Spain, and the immediate emotional reaction to such an attack is as likely to be Jacksonian as it is to be more isolationist. While I don&#8217;t think that delaying the elections in such an event is a good idea (unless critical communications infrastructure is somehow down, making it hard to actually run the election), I&#8217;ll bet that the losing side will be in court after such an election claiming that the election should have been delayed &#8211; thereby delaying the outcome.<\/p>\n<p>So let&#8217;s do a four-way matrix:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nClose election + attack = challenge &#038; delay (he wins)<br \/>\nClose election = challenge &#038; delay (he wins)<br \/>\nBlowout + attack = challenge &#038; delay (he wins)<br \/>\nBlowout = no effective challenge (he loses)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So if you think the odds of a major attack are high, and the odds of a close election are high &#8211; his 30:1 odds suddenly don&#8217;t look so good. And it isn&#8217;t because of some nefarious plan by the Trilateral Commission (kidding!!) to create a theological dictatorship (anyone read Heinlein?), it&#8217;s the natural development of a litigious, rules-based political process where shame is nonexistent and voters appear to have short memories (if the political class had shame, they wouldn&#8217;t do this &#8211; think of Nixon&#8217;s response to the 1960 Chicago results, and if voters had memories they&#8217;d punish candidates who &#8216;gamed&#8217; the system).<\/p>\n<p>This makes the issues of voting process and vote-counting (up to now the province of true election geeks) something we need to address in a serious way in terms of the technology, the administrative procedures, and the legal wrapping around it. Hmmm&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Blogger John Emerson, of &#8216;Seeing the Forest&#8216; is raising a bet about the coming election. His (original) bet is: I&#8217;m willing to bet $50 at 30-to-one that we&#8217;ll see problems in the 2004 Presidential election as bad or worse than those in the 2000 election. Your $1500 says everything will be OK, my $50 says [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/448"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=448"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/448\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=448"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=448"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=448"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}