{"id":478,"date":"2004-08-12T00:52:34","date_gmt":"2004-08-12T00:52:34","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2006-09-28T12:08:44","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T12:08:44","slug":"is_the_culture_gap_real","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=478","title":{"rendered":"Is The Culture Gap Real?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Randomly surfing today while I&#8217;m doing some writing, and a tripped over &#8216; <a href=\"http:\/\/cbftw.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"browser\">MY WAR &#8211; Fear And Loathing In Iraq<\/a>&#8216; by milblogger &#8216;CBFTW.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>First of all, it&#8217;s a damn good blog &#8211; whoever this guy is, he&#8217;s a helluva writer. He conveys the immediacy, determination, and frustration he writes about incredibly well.<\/p>\n<p>Other bloggers have pointed to him, so he&#8217;s only a discovery to me (if you haven&#8217;t been there yet, click on over and read a bit, you&#8217;ll be glad you did). But aside from discovering a good blog and a good writer, this kicked off an interesting round of thinking in me.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been wrestling for a while with a post on the &#8216;two Americas&#8217; cliche. Yes, it&#8217;s a cliche, but sometimes cliches exist because they are true. I&#8217;m going up to West Los Angeles pretty much every day from my suburban home, and I really do see a huge cultural gap between the well-off residents of Brentwood, Venice and Santa Monica (my old haunts) and the South Bay, where I live now.I&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/www.armedliberal.com\/archives\/2004_03.html\" target=\"browser\">written<\/a> a bit about it before:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>&#8230;I was having a late-night dinner at a terrible Italian restaurant in Long Beach, CA (wow, too awful to even allow me to remember the name), and the only other party was a group of \u201cmodern-Okie\u201d aerospace workers &#8230; badly dressed, overweight, uncultured (they were talking excitedly about \u2018The Bachelor\u2019). The dads (two couples w\/multiple kids) were apparently in the aerospace industry, and I had a jolt of realization &#8230; these were the families that built the airplanes that I fly around in, and millions of families like them build our houses, buildings, sewers, provide water and electricity, etc. etc. And I began to look at my own attitudes and wonder just why the hell I felt permission to look amusedly at them, and to wonder for a moment which team I was on, and which one I wanted to be on.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and in getting connected with all the amazing people in the military I&#8217;ve met through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spiritofamerica.net\" target=\"browser\">Spirit of America<\/a>, most of them definitely were not on the same side of the cultural divide as my friends in Venice Beach.<\/p>\n<p>CBFTW is.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/3704995\" target=\"browser\">Here&#8217;s his Blogger profile<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>Interests<\/p>\n<p>    * drinking<br \/>\n    * skateboarding<br \/>\n    * reading<br \/>\n    * music<br \/>\n    * anti social behavior<br \/>\n    * film<br \/>\n    * culture<br \/>\n    * politics<br \/>\n    * San Francisco<br \/>\n    * 80&#8217;s music<br \/>\n    * Charles Bukowski<br \/>\n    * whiskey<br \/>\n    * Military History<br \/>\n    * cult movies<br \/>\n    * photography<br \/>\n    * art<br \/>\n    * punk rock<br \/>\n    * abandoned buildings<br \/>\n    * Your Mom<br \/>\n    * dive bars<\/p>\n<p>Favorite Movies<\/p>\n<p>    * Taxi Driver<br \/>\n    * Swingers<br \/>\n    * Say Anything<br \/>\n    * Reality Bites<br \/>\n    * Pretty In Pink<br \/>\n    * Clerks<br \/>\n    * Full Metal Jacket<br \/>\n    * Breakfast Club<br \/>\n    * Dirty Harry<br \/>\n    * The Warriors<br \/>\n    * Falling Down<br \/>\n    * Texas Chainsaw Massacre<br \/>\n    * Beat Girl<br \/>\n    * Cape Fear<br \/>\n    * Chopper<br \/>\n    * Reservoir Dogs<br \/>\n    * Pulp Fiction<br \/>\n    * True Romance<br \/>\n    * Barfly<br \/>\n    * Apocalypse Now<\/p>\n<p>Favorite Music<\/p>\n<p>    * JAZZ<br \/>\n    * Blues<br \/>\n    * punk<br \/>\n    * harcore<br \/>\n    * metal<br \/>\n    * alternative<br \/>\n    * grunge<br \/>\n    * SLAYER<br \/>\n    * 80&#8217;s music<br \/>\n    * classic rock<br \/>\n    * classical<br \/>\n    * Social Distortion<br \/>\n    * Rockabilly<br \/>\n    * Sinatra<br \/>\n    * Big Band<br \/>\n    * everything.<\/p>\n<p>Favorite Books<\/p>\n<p>    * Love is A Mad Dog From Hell<br \/>\n    * Ham On Rye<br \/>\n    * Catcher In The Rye<br \/>\n    * On The Road<br \/>\n    * Hells Angels<br \/>\n    * Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas<br \/>\n    * Steal This Book<br \/>\n    * Anarchist Cookbook<br \/>\n    * The Killer Inside Me<br \/>\n    * Army Training Manuals and Field Manuals<br \/>\n    * Ranger Handbook<br \/>\n    * Jack Kerouac<br \/>\n    * Hunter S. Thompson<br \/>\n    * Hemmingway<br \/>\n    * Naked Lunch<br \/>\n    * James Ellroy<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a guy as comfortable as I am hanging out at Skylight Books or searching for an old Social Distortion live album.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe &#8211; just maybe &#8211; there are a lot of us trapped at the boundary between the two cultures. Maybe it&#8217;s the old guys like me who are so polarized, and many of the younger cohorts just don&#8217;t worry about it as much as we do.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;d be good news.<\/p>\n<p>More good news in the form of the response of his chain of command on discovering his blog.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>He calmly looked up and told me that my shit was really good, and he liked reading my stuff, and that I was a good writer. He even mentioned something about including it in the units history and archives. That didn&#8217;t relieve me one bit, like I said, it made me more freaked out. I&#8217;m waiting for him to say the word: &#8220;BUT&#8221; followed by my punishment. Then we discussed things, and he pointed things out, and told me things. I agreed with 100% of everything he was saying, and the final conclusion from what he told me was that I could continue writing, but maybe have my Plt Sgt read my stuff before I post. He stressed that he didn&#8217;t want to censor me and that I still had the freedom of speech thing, as long as I wasn&#8217;t doing anything that would endanger the mission. I totally 110% agree with him on that one. I thanked him and I told him that I of course would not want to do anything that would endanger anybody here or back home, which is of course true. He suggested that I should look into getting this stuff published and made into a book someday.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, the military continues to impress me.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Randomly surfing today while I&#8217;m doing some writing, and a tripped over &#8216; MY WAR &#8211; Fear And Loathing In Iraq&#8216; by milblogger &#8216;CBFTW.&#8217; First of all, it&#8217;s a damn good blog &#8211; whoever this guy is, he&#8217;s a helluva writer. He conveys the immediacy, determination, and frustration he writes about incredibly well. 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