{"id":181,"date":"2003-08-29T19:32:11","date_gmt":"2003-08-29T19:32:11","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2006-09-28T12:08:19","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T12:08:19","slug":"public_displays_of_religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=181","title":{"rendered":"Public Displays of Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In response to the Alabama\/10 Commandments flap which I blogged in &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/windsofchange.net\/archives\/003961.html\">God and Man In Alabama<\/a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/windsofchange.net\/archives\/003963.html\">Moses Supposes<\/a>&#8220;, Donald Sensing put up 2 thoughtful posts.<\/p>\n<p>In the first, <a href=\"http:\/\/donaldsensing.com\/2003_08_01_archive.html#106207339420280990\" target=\"browser\">he challenges the parties to the decision to answer a set of thought questions<\/a> designed to explore the boundaries of whether the State can honor God. In the second, <a href=\"http:\/\/donaldsensing.com\/2003_08_01_archive.html#106208575200225665\" target=\"browser\">he challenges the supposition that no state-favored display of religion is possible<\/a> by pointing to the statue of Athena placed in a park.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to leave the first alone as more of an issue for <a href=\"http:\/\/lsolum.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"browser\">Lawrence Solum<\/a> or one of <a href=\"http:\/\/volokh.com\/\" target=\"browser\">the Volokhs<\/a>; but I do want to talk about the second.<br \/>\nIn one of my <a href=\"http:\/\/windsofchange.net\/cgi-bin\/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=3963\" target=\"browser\">comments<\/a> to &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/windsofchange.net\/archives\/003963.html\" target=\"browser\">Moses Supposes<\/a>&#8216;, I said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>I&#8217;ve always been irked at people who challenge Nativity displays or menorahs in parks, because I find that to be well within the tradition of &#8216;reverence&#8217; I talk about above. Other, similarly celebratory expressions don&#8217;t bother me at all.<\/p>\n<p>But to put it in the courthouse (or the legislative chamber) says to me that this law isn&#8217;t the law of the State, but the law of God, and at that point I start to itch pretty badly.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And that pretty neatly wraps my position; I think we should <u>encourage<\/u> public displays of reverence &#8230; of all kinds, including the occasional statue of Gautama and even Ganesha. Clearly there are some lines; I&#8217;d rather followers of the <i>houdoun<\/i> don&#8217;t slaughter goats in public parks, and believers in Bacchus hold their bacchanals on private property.<\/p>\n<p>Now, in truth, some of these have become secularized through use over the years &#8211; Athena in most architectural art represents a generalized &#8216;wisdom symbol&#8217;, and there are no living worshippers at her temples as far as I know.<\/p>\n<p>But displays tied to living religions must be carefully separated from the power of the state. I don&#8217;t want to walk into a courtroom and see a Torah, or a Gohonzon. Judges are certainly free to keep them in their chambers, or keep them on their person, but to display them as a part of the fabric of the building, or of the institution, is to imply that the fabric of the law is tightly bound with a religious &#8211; as opposed to cultural &#8211; doctrine. That is to me deeply offensive.<\/p>\n<p>Believers and nonbelievers may come to the state capital and do business. Animists and Episcopalians alike may come to City Hall and get their zoning ordinances, and I think that anything that suggests otherwise needs to go.<\/p>\n<p>So parks and public squares &#8211; sure! Courthouses, legislative chambers, city halls &#8211; nope. To me, there is a clear difference, in that there are many parks, which may embrace many historic or cultural or religious themes. I&#8217;m free to work to get my hero, god, or symbol incorporated into one.<\/p>\n<p>But the instruments of state power cannot be escaped. And anything that suggests that they favor one religion or culture or group over another &#8211; that we are not all equal before the majesty of the law &#8211; is wrong.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Armed Liberal addresses the issue of what is meant by &#8220;no state-favored display of religion&#8221; in America.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/181"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=181"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/181\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=181"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=181"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=181"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}