{"id":207,"date":"2003-10-06T17:36:35","date_gmt":"2003-10-06T17:36:35","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2006-09-28T12:08:22","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T12:08:22","slug":"for_what_its_worth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=207","title":{"rendered":"For What It&#8217;s Worth"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;There&#8217;s something happening here<br \/>\nWhat it is ain&#8217;t exactly clear<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s a man with a gun over there<br \/>\nTelling me I got to beware<br \/>\nI think it&#8217;s time we stop, children, what&#8217;s that sound<br \/>\nEverybody look what&#8217;s going down<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s battle lines being drawn<br \/>\nNobody&#8217;s right if everybody&#8217;s wrong<br \/>\nYoung people speaking their minds<br \/>\nGetting so much resistance from behind<br \/>\nI think it&#8217;s time we stop, hey, what&#8217;s that sound<br \/>\nEverybody look what&#8217;s going down<br \/>\nWhat a field-day for the heat<br \/>\nA thousand people in the street<br \/>\nSinging songs and carrying signs<br \/>\n<b>Mostly say, hooray for our side<\/b><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s time we stop, hey, what&#8217;s that sound<br \/>\nEverybody look what&#8217;s going down.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; &#8220;For What It&#8217;s Worth&#8221;, Buffalo Springfield, 1967 (written by Stephen Stills, emphasis mine)<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b>i\u00b7con\u00b7o\u00b7clast  (n.)<\/b> <i>One who attacks and seeks to overthrow traditional or popular ideas or institutions; One who destroys sacred religious images.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>After we got back from the trip, I buried myself in finishing up the latest project, and only got time to spend wandering the blogs this weekend.<\/p>\n<p>And today, I find myself, in the jargon of 1967, <b>kinda bummed<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve met <a href=\"http:\/\/www.calpundit.com\/\" target=\"browser\">&#8220;Calpundit&#8221;<\/a> Kevin Drum and his lovely (and tolerant &#8211; blogger&#8217;s partner has to be) wife, and I&#8217;ve corresponded with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.instapundit.com\/\" target=\"browser\">&#8220;Instapundit&#8221;<\/a> Glenn Reynolds, who strikes me as an interesting and more than smart fella; sometimes I&#8217;ve agreed and sometimes not with each of them.<\/p>\n<p>But this weekend I went back and looked at the last few week&#8217;s posts from each of them, and my heart fell a little bit. <\/p>\n<p>And then in the gym this morning (I&#8217;m rehabbing an injured shoulder so I can go back to martial arts), they played the Buffalo Springfield song above (one of the hits from my high school years). And something hit me.<\/p>\n<p>I want to outline what I saw, and toss the question out there as to whether it&#8217;s an artifact of my own impressions and memory, or something that other people see as well.One of the things that I admire intensely about both Kevin and Glenn is that when I started reading them, I read them both as fellow iconoclasts &#8211; that while Kevin was liberal, he wasn&#8217;t interested in playing to the party line and while Glenn was libertarian-conservative, he was equally disinterested in playing for one team or the other. Each of them, it seemed to me (and I ought to go do some kind of analysis of posts but don&#8217;t have time), spend a nontrivial amount of their time poking at the stupidities of their own sides.<\/p>\n<p>I felt like there was the germ of a Third Path kind of movement here, a chance to create a Party of the Sensible. We might disagree about certain aspects of policy, but we&#8217;d agree that it ought to be reality-based, instead of living within the soap-opera world that constitutes political life in America today.<\/p>\n<p>But going back over the last few week&#8217;s posts, it just seems to me like each has joined the chorus of people saying &#8220;hooray for our side&#8221;; maybe it&#8217;s just <i>l&#8217;affaire Plame<\/i>, but it just reads like Kevin is out to nail the Bush team and Glenn is out to defend them &#8211; and all of the lesser issues they talk about start to fall into place according to that force field.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe this is who Glenn and Kevin have always been.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe it&#8217;s an unavoidable consequence of being taken seriously, as I think both Kevin and Glenn are.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe it&#8217;s all in my head.<\/p>\n<p>But if you share my belief that the biggest threat to the Republic is the crystallization of our politics into something too inflexible to deal with the problems we&#8217;re facing today and will be facing in my son&#8217;s time, it&#8217;s hard to look at this without worry. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s something happening here What it is ain&#8217;t exactly clear There&#8217;s a man with a gun over there Telling me I got to beware I think it&#8217;s time we stop, children, what&#8217;s that sound Everybody look what&#8217;s going down There&#8217;s battle lines being drawn Nobody&#8217;s right if everybody&#8217;s wrong Young people speaking their minds Getting [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=207"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=207"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=207"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=207"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}