{"id":2191,"date":"2009-12-04T05:15:43","date_gmt":"2009-12-04T05:15:43","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2009-12-04T05:15:43","modified_gmt":"2009-12-04T05:15:43","slug":"swiss_minaret_b","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=2191","title":{"rendered":"Swiss Minaret Ban &#8211; A Contrary View"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.windsofchange.net\/archives\/swiss_minaret_referendum.html#c3\" target=\"browser\">commented below<\/a> on Joe&#8217;s piece on the Swiss minaret ban; my take was that the ban is a bad idea and fundamentally wrong. It is not about controlling something that Muslims do &#8211; some criminal behavior, or even one that&#8217;s annoying (a call to prayer). It&#8217;s a lashing out at them for who they <i>are<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>David Blue and I have disagreed frequently and strongly on this site over whether is issue is Islam or Islamists; I flatly believe that the issue is not Islam &#8211; although we do have issues with Islam, just as we do with other cultures that were formerly &#8216;Third World&#8217; because they are beginning to compete with the West for political and ideological dominance. But that competition is vastly different than the murderous acts of a small minority who want to remake Islam, and we do have immediate, serious and lethal issues with those Islamists.<\/p>\n<p>The problem, as I see it (and as <a href=\"http:\/\/volokh.com\/2009\/11\/30\/swiss-vote-to-ban-minarets\/\" target=\"browser\">Dave Kopel over at Volokh<\/a> saw it) is summed up by my comment:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>1) Swiss Gov&#8217;t comes to accommodations with various Islamist groups for internal security reasons &#8211; do what you want here, but no attacks;<\/p>\n<p>2) Islamist groups use Swiss facilities with increasing visibility;<\/p>\n<p>3) Non-Islamist Muslim population grows;<\/p>\n<p>4) Non-Muslim Swiss population (who are, like the French, stunningly racist by nature) is PO&#8217;ed at the government actions and at the increasing visibility of both the Islamist and benign Muslim populations and performs a gratuitous act of foot-stomping. Or, as Otter put it, &#8220;a really futile and stupid gesture&#8230;&#8221;<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;ve predicted in the past that Europe wasn&#8217;t at risk of becoming Islamic, but instead that there would be a right-wing xenophobic reaction that risked Europe going to something that looks a lot like fascism (violent, racist nationalism). I&#8217;m standing by that prediction, and I&#8217;ll suggest that&#8217;s as bad an outcome as any Eurabia.<br \/>\n&#8211;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Armed Liberal thinks the Swiss Minaret ban is &#8220;&#8230;a really futile and stupid gesture&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2191"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2191"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2191\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2191"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2191"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2191"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}