{"id":557,"date":"2004-10-12T17:59:42","date_gmt":"2004-10-12T17:59:42","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2006-09-28T12:08:49","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T12:08:49","slug":"on_sanctions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=557","title":{"rendered":"On Sanctions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s a thought-problem for folks to chew on a bit.<\/p>\n<p>I watched Tim Russert on the hotel-room TV late Saturday night, interviewing James Fallows and another magazine editor who supported the war (sorry, was reading Tommy Franks&#8217; book, and only paying half attention). Fallows, who I respect greatly, kept coming back to one point: &#8220;The inspections were finally working just before the war. We didn&#8217;t have to invade, we could have kept Saddam contained.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I keep hearing this from people, think this is a truly dumb statement, and since I think James Fallows is very smart want to toss the issue out here for discussion.Here are my points, and some questions:<\/p>\n<p>* In the end-game just before the war, Saddam was suddenly much more cooperative with the inspectors. But we had about 150 &#8211; 200,000 troops on his border. How long could we have kept them there, and what would the impact on the Arab world have been had we done so?<\/p>\n<p>* Containment and the various embargoes we had erected around Iraq were leaking, and leaking progressively more and more. At what point would they have become so leaky as to be ineffective?<\/p>\n<p>* Saddam was using the skimmed funds from Oil-For-Food to weaken the Western coalition, by bribing executives, journalists, and politicians. At what point would the political environment have become such that sanctions would have collapsed?<\/p>\n<p>* The people of Iraq were suffering horribly under sanctions. Even if we take <a href=\"http:\/\/mattwelch.com\/NatPostSave\/Sanctions.htm\" target=\"browser\">Matt Welch&#8217;s math<\/a> as correct (as I do), we get this result: &#8220;Between August, 1991, and March, 1998, there were between 106,000 and 227,000 excess deaths of children under five.&#8221; Incomes collapsed, infrastructure decayed, as Saddam built palaces and was screwed out of millions on deals to buy North Korean missiles. Somehow, this places the casualties of the war into some kind of context for me. <\/p>\n<p>And as a bonus question, let&#8217;s do some research over the next few days. How many opponents of the war were also opponents of sanctions? There was a well-developed international movement to lift the inhumane sanctions on Iraq. Just to end them, because the human cost was unacceptably high. I haven&#8217;t mapped people and organizations who supported this with those who opposed the war, but given some time, I bet a bunch of us could put together a very interesting list.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The question of the war in Iraq keeps coming back to the idea that sanctions worked. Did they?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/557"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=557"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/557\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=557"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=557"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=557"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}