{"id":799,"date":"2005-06-18T06:45:40","date_gmt":"2005-06-18T06:45:40","guid":{"rendered":"0"},"modified":"2006-09-28T12:09:12","modified_gmt":"2006-09-28T12:09:12","slug":"washing_dishes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcdanziger.com\/?p=799","title":{"rendered":"Washing Dishes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The following is the lightly edited transcript of an IM I just had with a friend. I&#8217;m thinking about &#8216;washing dishes&#8217; as the basis of a personal philosophy, and am interested in what people think:<\/p>\n<p><b>me:<\/b> so what&#8217;s the existential bummer <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> oh the usual shmoo. my therapist says I have death anxiety. well, yeah. so I&#8217;m working through that, and figuring out what I really want to do with the next 10-20 years or so. not just what I&#8217;ve been dreaming about doing or what I think I should or what somebody else&#8217;s good idea is, but coming to some conclusions about that deep-down life eval that started quite a while back and which has been bubbling the last couple of years. and realizing that I have an enormous range of choices and freaking out about which flavor of ice cream to eat first. wondering why the hell I have so much stuff published not in my name&#8230; which seems rather self-sabotaging for someone who professes to want to make a living writing. hard to get credit for it if my name&#8217;s no where near it, right <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> nope, doesn&#8217;t work too well<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so &#8211; how do you feel about washing dishes <\/p>\n<p><b>friend<\/b> hee&#8230; well, it&#8217;s not a very demanding sort of thing to do, now is it on the other hand, I&#8217;ve done it in college and already know it&#8217;s not as glamorous as the movies would have us believe&#8230; hell on a girl&#8217;s manicure.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> I have a new philosophy of life<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> you need to learn to enjoy washing dishes<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> because that&#8217;s what most of life is about<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so you have to adjust your attitude toward things until you see the pleasure in it<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> yeah, I think it&#8217;s called chopping wood and carrying water to some folks on the other side of the ocean<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> yup<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> except that we don&#8217;t do that&#8217;s so it&#8217;s too trite<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and romanticized<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> maybe I&#8217;m too much of an hedonist.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> all that other stuff &#8211; the pleasure stuff &#8211; is just wrapped around washing dishes<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> I have this unshakeable belief that I shouldn&#8217;t spend 8-10 hrs a day doing something I don&#8217;t like.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> really&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> at least not every day for the rest of my life.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so if you lived in a village, what would you spend your time doing? <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> or is this one of those reincarnation &#8220;I was a queen&#8221; things <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> &#8217;cause no one ever seems to have worked in the kitchens.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> I&#8217;d be a doula, or the village healer, and weave, and cook, and maybe try carving things if I didn&#8217;t cut my fingers off (there&#8217;s a reason I gave you those throwing knives).<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> I don&#8217;t think I was ever a queen. a priestess once in a while, a small peasant boy living on the banks of the Nile, perhaps. was burned for witchcraft once. that sucked.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> funny<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> but here&#8217;s the deal &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> you&#8217;d have to heal and weave even when it stopped being fun<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> that&#8217;s the key to adulthood<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and the mistake we make &#8211; because as Americans (maybe as Europeans too) is thinking that our childhood will be prolonged and that life ought to be like summer camp<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> where people get paid to entertain us all day<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> oh yeah. even when somebody died bad because of something I did. I can live with that. have already, even. and weave when my fingers get sore and bloody because somebody needs clothes. yup.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so why is it so hard to do a job where your fingers don&#8217;t bleed? <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> you do work in IT, right tell me it&#8217;s not entertaining all day, if you just look around with a certain degree of detachment <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> like bad mimes on X&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> I&#8217;m almost always entertained.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and I get to work with a bunch of smart people<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and all the people who work with me are amazingly high-maintenance<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so there&#8217;s always something<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and I get to solve interesting problems<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so, compared with using a stick for a plow and plating beets, it&#8217;s pretty good<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> for me the work doesn&#8217;t have to be fun or entertaining, but it does need to make a difference, be worthwhile, raise the level of common good somehow. better if I can make money doing it than volunteer only, of course.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so walk the walk. people take do-good jobs alla time<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> they don&#8217;t get shiny cars and nice clothes, but they make do<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> (I&#8217;m feeling direct tonight)<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> getting there. overhead is being lowered as we speak so I don&#8217;t have to work just for money. I&#8217;m working out a line of jewelry that will benefit a non-profit or two, depending on which pieces are interesting to who. creative + beauty + good + right-brain lets me get balance to go do the kitchen scut work that pays the bills. and eventually the balance will shift<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> I&#8217;ll be interested in how you see those organizations from the inside<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> politics, politics, self-aggrandizement, egos nattering about how wonderful we all are for taking care of those poor chilluns&#8230; at least that&#8217;s been my experience to date with non-profits. people are people. all we can do is what we can do. sometimes the right thing for the wrong reason.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> ayup<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> you know the phrase &#8216;doing a geographic&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> not exactly<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> In 12-step (one ex-wife and a few girlfriends) the theory that if you just move, everything will be OK<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> but no matter where you go, there you are.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> which is why you have to do what you can do, now. not in some theoretical future when everything will be different because of X<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and learn to enjoy doing the dishes<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> I have learned in the last 6 months that I give a shit about an MFA, so that&#8217;s some concrete progress been made.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> That&#8217;s head in clouds stuff<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> if you liked washing dishes, it&#8217;d be easy to work out<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> I keep having this illusion that life is about accomplishing goals. big goals. and it keeps biting me in the ass.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> it is about accomplishing goals<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> but we think about the big goals &#8211; book deal, etc. etc and in the morning we still have to take out the trash &#8211; and wash the dishes<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> you have to do both<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> but if you don&#8217;t wash the dishes, and you don&#8217;t get the book deal, you&#8217;re fucked<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> while if you do wash the dishes, you get a clean kitchen (i.e. your daily life is in balance and feels good)<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> I&#8217;ve been doing good lately to do the trash and dishes&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> back to balance. <\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> some folks need to learn to stretch<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> they never reach for anything<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> most of us need to learn not to stretch so much<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> because we&#8217;re lied to all our lives and told that all that matters are the things you stretch for<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> that&#8217;s what I mean by getting bitten in the ass by the big goals.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and &#8211; since most of us don&#8217;t get the brass ring &#8211; we start thinking our lives don&#8217;t mean a damn<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> big goals matter<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> but it&#8217;s funny &#8211; I think that many people get them in a burst in their 20&#8217;s<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> and if you don&#8217;t do that &#8211; if you&#8217;re not Picasso &#8211; then you do it a dish at a time.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> get up, clean the kitchen, get dressed, do work<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> Lots of people hang on the edge &#8211; not committing to their daily lives while they try and reach &#8211; with shortened reach &#8211; for the goal<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so you&#8217;re fucked &#8211; won&#8217;t get either a life or goals<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> living in what should be instead of where they are<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> yup<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> not in what &#8216;should be&#8217; but &#8216;what I wish was&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> so then you go to Plan B<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> which is<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> chopping wood for the kitchen so you can boil water to wash the dishes<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> you&#8217;re a writer. Wallace Stevens and Ted Kooser worked for insurance companies<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>friend<\/b> yup.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> managed to write a little on the side<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> didn&#8217;t sit in the living room unhappy that they had to go to work<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>me:<\/b> hence enjoying doing dishes&#8230;and we&#8217;re back where we started.<\/p>\n<p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have a new philosophy of life. You need to learn to enjoy washing dishes. 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