Saw Gangs of New York over the holiday; it was a boys night as my mom and TG spent Christmas Eve cleaning up the mess (to be fair, Id cooked, and the boys had set up); and we wanted to go see something TG wouldnt kill me for seeing without her, so picked that.
First, Ill refer you to the post below. In keeping with the theme of the film, Im going to go buy a Bowie knife and start bringing it to theaters; when I ask people to be quiet the third or fourth time, Ill ostentatiously start cleaning my nails with it. I cannot believe that a bunch of middle-aged, middle-class purportedly cultured people have such a weak grasp on elementary courtesy.
Second, why do people being their six and eight-year old kids to moves that are this gratuitously violent?? And Im not talking Jackie Chan or even Matrix type cartoon violence. Any movie that has a speech by a major character about how they cut out their own eye as penance might just be a movie that the kiddies could stay home from, dontcha think? Weve decided that Littlest Guy (at six) is too young to see LotR yet, and I dont think thats a bad idea. The talkative couple in front of us (as opposed to the talkative pair of ladies to our right and the talkative couple behind us) had brought their son who looked to be LGs age and he watched the gore with rapt fascination.
Now, the movie.
It wasnt very good.
It wasnt very good for three reasons: First, because it was waay too slow and self-important. Every scene seemed padded, like it had 5% of extra footage in the beginning and 10% on the end. And the sense of pace or orchestration just didnt come across to us. Second, because the plot and theme placed too much emphasis on the stereotypical elements (will he seek revenge or accept the fatherly love of his true father’s killer?) and not enough on the more complex human ones. And finally, because the violence, unlike the violence in Goodfellas or Casino didnt serve the story, it seemed rather like the story was there to set up the violence.
But as a window into history, it was great. I’ll note that the real 19th century gang wars were more like brawls than the medieval melees, complete with edged weapons, that this movie suggests. And from the accounts Ive read, the Draft Riots were more narrowly focused on African Americans. But the feel of the film for the look and presence of the streets and crowds was worth the price of admission (if you have the stomach for it).
The racism of the nativists against the immigrants
in this case the Irish
was palpable, and it was fun to watch the political horsetrading that Boss Tweed engaged in as he tried to corral the Irish vote. Someday, Id love to see a great movie about a political boss, and about the low-level politics
of licenses, jobs, and favors, that went into it. All the King’s Men is the most recent that I can think of. Id love to see another.
Im ruminating on machine politics, and will try and put something together on it. Overall, Im wondering if breaking the back of the political machines has been a totally good thing
and if in fact, weve really done it.
But the reason to see the movie is the imagery and language (and to a lesser degree, for Daniel Day-Lewis). There is a book
Evidence, by Luc Sante that had the same kind of feeling of a window into the unsanitized past.
Its also provoking further thoughts on race, which has been much discussed here and in the balance of the Blogoverse.
Now I just need to get some more time
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TURN OFF THE COMPUTER
…and go celebrate the next two days with your friends and families.
Best wishes to everyone. May we all get what we need and hope for and not necessarily what we deserve…
A COOL THING
Demonstrating that attitude must run in families, Rachel Lucas’ aunt has a site that pairs up active-duty military and civilians as e-pen pals…
…thirty years from now, we’ll be reading touching stories in Dear Abby about people who met via this…
A ‘WHITE’ CHRISTMAS
Well, the Xmas Ornament party at Casa de Armed Liberal came off with few if any obvious hitches; the incontinent cat didnt piddle on the tree, no one mugged us to steal her needles, everyone get fed and watered (or cidered or Cava-ed), and (other than my psycho ex-Sheriff dear friend) no weapons were brandished or actually drawn.
Ann Salisbury, Kevin Drum, and Martin Devon were kind enough to join us, and while I tried to get them to separate and mingle, the politics attractor was just too strong.
A few other guests fell into their pull, and we got a few good discussions going, the most heated of which involved (surprise!) race
It was an interesting (if lily-white) discussion, with a wide range of views represented.
The two major clusters were centered around Kevin and Ann, who made the racism exists and the government needs to do something about it argument (Im not exactly making all the subtleties in their real arguments, but Im just planting a flag here) and the ex-cop who made the you have no idea what youre talking about in the real world, and until the culture of victimization and entitlement changes, nothings going to get better argument.
No one changed anyone elses mind (what a surprise!) and it was hard to even find a common set of facts, statistics or anecdotes to agree on.
My reaction then, and now, was fairly complex: What if theyre both right? Because in reality, I tend to think that there are five basic groups of thought on the subject of race.
We have race-baiters and bashers of both the left and right. Im sorry, but Al Sharpton has more in common, in my mind, with David Duke than with anyone else. Without the cloud of racial animus they both rely on and rhetorically keep inflated, theyd have to get real jobs.
Thats two.
We have a bunch of people who really dont have a clue, either because (its possible) theyre so enlightened that they have transcended race, or because they dont spend one brain cells worth of effort thinking about these issues. I periodically go to the motorcycle races in Rosamond, in the far northern desert suburbs of Los Angeles, and one thing Ive noticed is the prevalence of clumps of young teens wandering around looking for whatever young teens are looking for on a weekend day
and these clumps are often multiracial. I dont think these kids spend a lot of time dealing with issues of race, and thats OK with me.
And the final two are the highly political but well-intentioned on both sides of the issue.
One side believes that only the active intervention of the highest levels of government which stopped lynching, integrated schools and businesses, and broke the hard color lines that existed as recently as 40 years ago can keep the weak minority from being crushed by the majority.
The other side believes that the damage done to the minority by the programs which were established to help them far outweighs any benefits.
Sadly, while I believe that each of these groups is well-intentioned, each of them is somewhat in thrall to their extremist partners, who set boundaries on the debate.
On the Right, they simply refuse to acknowledge the depth of real harm done in the past, as well as the simple fact that the harm was only undone by the direct forceful intervention of the Federal Government. Its equally difficult for them to talk about the real straits the black underclass is in.
On the Left, it is impossible to talk about any of the negative impacts of racial policies and government intervention
on minorities or on society as a whole
without immediately being exiled as a racist. And its impossible for them to break out of the old metaphors of the continuing exploited position of African Americans in America, even when confronted with Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Glen Reynolds future sister-in-law, or my friends black wife.
Now Ive been dinged in the past for piling on my liberal allies.
Let me make a simple point: Im not interested in helping build a strong conservative movement here in the U.S. In case you haven’t noticed, that exists. I am interested in seeing a successful liberal movement which means both that it has to be able to gain power, and once in power actually achieve liberal goals. Im dubious about the ability of the current liberal movement to do either one.
So lets talk about what I see as wrong with the liberal position on race.
This weekends L.A. Times has a commentary by Michael Eric Dyson, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania:
One of the reasons race continues to play such a huge role in the culture is that we deny its persistence. When it comes to race, we live in the United States of Amnesia.
The nation thrives on whitewashing its bitter racial conflicts, or at least baptizing them in the healing pools of revisionist mythology.
The Civil War wasn’t fundamentally a conflict of color rooted in slavery but rather a battle over political measures to unify the nation.
The Supreme Court isn’t a politically motivated body of legal opinion but a neutral, objective forum to adjudicate racial disputes.
Affirmative action is not a provisional remedy for the vicious history of racial discrimination but a set of public policies designed to facilitate preferential treatment for unqualified minorities.
By these and other political and rhetorical maneuvers, the racial status quo — made up largely of conservative figures who opposed crucial features of the struggle for racial equality, or neoliberal pols uncomfortable with the claims of progressive antiracist activists — has managed to deflect responsibility for its role in the perpetuation of policies, prejudices and practices it is now supposed to resist.
By rewriting the violent history of race in America, figures in both staunchly conservative and weakly liberal camps are able to appear as allies of racial justice while promoting beliefs and values that severely undermine racial progress.
The denial of our racial past, in some measure, means that we are forever doomed to a battle over just how bad things are in our racial present. If we can’t agree — and, really, tell the truth — about the history of race, we can’t tell the truth about the politics of race. The two are indissolubly linked.
The politics of race involves disputes about the persistence of racism; the role of race in deciding the distribution of social goods like education and employment; the place of race in public discourse, whether through presidential commission or informal debates; the political will to address the most damning aspects of discrimination, prejudice and bias; and the acrimonious argument over just how much economic and social resources should be devoted to remedying our racial miasma.
Many whites feel that they — which means the government, because many whites identify themselves as “the nation” — have bent over backward for long enough to accommodate the patently unfair demands of ungrateful and complaining blacks. Many blacks feel that measures such as affirmative action are not the ceiling, but the ground floor, of racial justice, and hence view reparations as the only viable symbol of the nation’s full commitment to bringing true racial justice.
Finally, because race is America’s original sin, there is still a great deal of shame around its discussion that puts roadblocks in the way of open and honest engagement.
Thus, when it comes to race, what philosophers call a category mistake is made: Americans often substitute private belief and personal emotion for public policy and social practice. Many folks were engrossed in discussion over whether Trent Lott was a racist, based on whether he held prejudiced views about blacks, or whether he harbored racial animus in his heart.
Boy, there is a lot to talk about here
First, and foremost, it infuriates me to hear of race as being America’s original sin. Someone needs to read a history book or two. Racism and the exploitation of minority races is as old as human history. It has been a feature of every society I know about in history, and it is a feature of every society I know of in the modern world.
Where you dont see racial conflict, it is for one of two reasons: 1) because one race has killed or otherwise subjugated another, thereby achieving 2) a racially homogenous society, where racial minorities are amusing oddities, and the realities of living alongside other races and cultures dont have to be dealt with.
I believe America has done more to openly deal with the issues of racial justice in the 19th and 20th centuries than any country or society that I can think of. Europe is just starting down the road of racial politics that America has been on for the last forty years.
Does this mean were done? Of course not. But its as ludicrous for leftwing advocates of racial justice to argue that were living in plantation days as for rightwing advocates of racial purity to argue that life for African Americans in those days wasnt all that bad.
Alone among Western nations, America retained slavery into the 19th century, and that was an awful sin. But alone among Western nations, we fought a bloody civil war largely triggered by the moral revulsion of one group within America over slavery, and while that blood doesnt wipe the slate clean, it certainly has to be looked at.
Many whites feel that they — which means the government, because many whites identify themselves as “the nation” — have bent over backward for long enough to accommodate the patently unfair demands of ungrateful and complaining blacks. Many blacks feel that measures such as affirmative action are not the ceiling, but the ground floor, of racial justice, and hence view reparations as the only viable symbol of the nation’s full commitment to bringing true racial justice.
Well, thats interesting
and points out another flaw in the Lefts approach to race. What is the ceiling? What goal line has to be crossed before we can say that weve put paid to race as an issue? What is the vision of the desired end state?
Because it does seem to many like what is asked for is in essence a blank check. And at that point, were not making policy, were engaging in psychodrama. If we want to win on the issue of race, one of the things that we have to have is a clear vision of what winning looks like. We had that in the 60s. It was black and white children graduating alongside each other at Little Rock High School. It was black and white kids dating at the prom. It was black faces sitting at the tables of power.
OK, we accomplished that.
But weve left millions of African American families behind. In education, in earning power, in hope for the future.
What does the answer for them look like?
Answer that question, my fellow liberals, and we can start getting there.
And as an afterthought: If the old vision was
black and white children graduating alongside each other at Little Rock High School. It was black and white kids dating at the prom, how do separate graduations and separate proms for African American students fit into the vision?
(added author’s name to the LA Times commentary)
BLOGROLL
So I got the carpets cleaned, and found the CD with the backup on it.
Here are the (way overdue in most cases) additions to the blogroll:
Interesting Liberals
Ampersand
Atrios
Rebecca’s Pocket
Robin Goodfellow
RaptorMagic
Just Plain Good Blogs
The Bookslut
The Daily Rant
exit zero
Insignificant Thoughts
Kolkata Libertarian
Rachel Lucas
Jacob T. Levy
Pet Bunny
RAWbservations
Social Design Notes
Sneaking Suspicions
Oliver Willis
A BRIEF DELAY IN BLOGGING
As a consequence of living in the Real World. This weekend, we’re getting ready for two parties we’re hosting tomorrow night, finishing up Christmas shopping, getting the annual family pictures taken, and because if there is a God, she has a malicious sense of humor, dealing with a cat suddenly incontinent because of feline diabetes.
We just got the lecture from the vet in how to give the shots, and dropped the scrips for needles and insulin off at the human pharmacy, where the clerk did not even bat an eye.
My gentle suggestion to TG that we sell the cat to a junkie in need of a source of clean needles was met with a steely silence. I may be sleeping in the garage tonight…
…back to scrubbing the carpet…
MO’^3 RACE
I’ve found the abstract of the ‘shoot/don’t shoot’ article, and will see if I can find a copy if I can get to a main library this weekend. Here’s the abstract, from the APA Journal of Personality and Social Psychology:
The Police Officer’s Dilemma: Using Ethnicity to Disambiguate Potentially Threatening Individuals
Joshua Correll, Bernadette Park,and Charles M. Judd
University of Colorado at Boulder
Bernd Wittenbrink
University of Chicago
Using a simple videogame, the effect of ethnicity on shoot/don’t shoot decisions was examined. African American or White targets, holding guns or other objects, appeared in complex backgrounds. Participants were told to “shoot” armed targets and to “not shoot” unarmed targets. In Study 1, White participants made the correct decision to shoot an armed target more quickly if the target was African American than if he was White, but decided to “not shoot” an unarmed target more quickly if he was White. Study 2 used a shorter time window, forcing this effect into error rates. Study 3 replicated Study 1’s effects and showed that the magnitude of bias varied with perceptions of the cultural stereotype and with levels of contact, but not with personal racial prejudice. Study 4 revealed equivalent levels of bias among both African American and White participants in a community sample. Implications and potential underlying mechanisms are discussed.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 2002, Vol. 83, No. 6, 13141329
I’ve gotta read this…
THE WORLD IS MORE COMPLEX THAN YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT
(and a free movie review)
I really disliked the movie Far From Heaven. There were a couple of reasons why (for one, Im as tired of the assumption that the white professional guy is always the bad guy as I am of the use of Arab or Central American cannon fodder in action movies), but the overall reason was simple: I didnt believe in any of the people, and it was a human drama. I almost believed in the Julianne Moore character, but I felt like I could see the strings dangling from the puppeteers hands above, trying to animate her and everyone else in the film.
One of the features I see in bad writing is the fact that the characters exactly fit the page (or screen); one of the things that I like in showing a good character (Ill use Julianne Moore in Magnolia as an example) is that they are bigger than the screen, that they are more complex, that what we are seeing is not the whole person but a facet of them, a slice through their life.
Hemingway has the famous dictum that authors should write a chapter about their characters and then pull it out and throw it away, to create space in the character’s life that isn’t seen on the page.
In FFH, I didnt get that feeling about any of the characters. Each was simply there to advance a plot point or demonstrate a theme in the movie, never to take a natural breath. Dennis Quaid was there to demonstrate the hollowness of the Man In The Grey Flannel Suit while Dennis Hasbert was the Noble Savage, simultaneously beset and preternatural in his calm control.
Ill leave FFH by pointing out that if they had eliminated the anachronisms and left the structure of relationships the same
but made them more subdued, more in keeping with the likely reality of how closeted gays and interracial couples (surprise, there were both in 1950s America) really acted, the tension of yearning of the characters real feelings would have been offset by the structure of convention and societal disapproval in ways that we would have believed.
And because we would have believed in the characters, we would have felt the impact much more strongly.
But instead, we were presented with simplified ideas of characters, people rendered down to an essence designed to further the thematic and philosophical bent of their author.
Similarly, in much political and philosophical thought, people are reduced to one- or two-dimensional caricatures, and the complexity of the work is similarly reduced.
This is partly just a basic human characteristic, because people tend to fit what they see into what they already know. When participants in the shoot/dont shoot study below saw a black man carrying a cell phone, they knew it was a gun, and responded accordingly.
We understand the world, Ive come to believe in pattern and narrative, and its difficult at best for us to adopt new ones. But the patterns are inherently reductive of the true richness and ambiguity of much of what happens. So we get stuck when the world throws up facts that dont comfortably fit into our preconceptions. I knew my Republican co-worker was conservative, knew that he had strong feelings about racial issues and policy in the U.S., and so when I met his (African American) wife I had a stunning moment where I had to watch my carefully created story about him and race collapse.
In politics, we do the same thing. We expect our leaders to be simple paragons, our issues to be neat, internally consistent and bounded, and facts as they unavoidably come to light to fit into the neat models weve made of the world.
Were wrong.
We have to stop expecting and start seeing, to stop trying to fit messy, complex, breathing people into neat pigeonholes that will advance the narratives were trying to impose on the world and our fellow human beings.
Now I know that this may be seen as dangerously close to the perpetual European diplomatic quest for nuance. Its not.
Its a desire to find a way of talking about politics that doesnt have the shallowness of a bad movie.
FINALLY…
APOLOGIES
To a whole bunch of really good bloggers; I just realized that I deleted the note where I’ve been keeping all the people I’ve meant to add to the blogroll. Sigh. I’ll thumb through the CD-ROM’s and see if I was smart enough to back it up.
Otherwise, it’ll be a week or so before I get enough reading done to do an update.
I’m a moron sometimes…