War Liberal scores in talking about core Republican values.
Crime is up, the deficit is up, foreign policy is a mess, the War on Terrorism is taking a breather. And business…the country-club Republican (as opposed to pickup-truck Republican) bastion appears to be unwinding as all the CEO’s and board members head for Club Fed.
MORE MIDDLE EAST SMARTNESS
Alex Frantz, my fellow Slug over at Public Nuisance, has an even better response to Sawicky (although he was responding to Demosthenes)than mine. Go check it out, but heres the payoff:
Since the Palestinians still massively support terror bombings, I can only conclude that the payoff the bombings produce is, in their minds, worth the cost. And that payoff isn’t improved chances of statehood, or reduced oppression. In both areas, the payoff of terrorism has been negative.
The only payoff the bombings get is dead Jews. And for the Palestinians, dayenu. That is enough.
Demosthenes’ own example shows it:`Ahmed is twelve: “calm, together and determined to kill Israelis.”` Not ‘determined to gain independence.’ Not ‘determined to get an education and help build his country.’ Just determined to kill.
In game theory terms, the Palestinians aim only at the strategy which has the worst payoff for their opponents. That the payoff is even worse for themselves they have deemed irrelevant.
And that is why I and many others are reconsidering our past support for Palestinian statehood. It’s why Glenn feels they are becoming a psychotic death cult and I pretty much agree. It’s why bloggers are saying that the terrorism has to stop and aren’t interested in talking grievances until it does. Not because they made a bad choice – anybody can do that. Not even because their bad choice was also immoral. It’s because their bad choice has led them into catastrophe and they don’t appear to regret it. They have made the decision that the ruin of their current and future prospects as a people is a small price to pay for the joy of murdering Jews. It isn’t violence for the sake of their homeland but violence for the sake of violence.
Go slugs! Slime em!
MO'^2 SFSU
From today’s LA Times (intrusive registration required):
San Francisco State announced Friday that it placed a Palestinian student organization on probation and cut off its funding for one year because of a campus confrontation last month.
The university also issued a letter of warning to a Jewish student group whose pro-Israel peace rally ended in the clash with pro-Palestinian demonstrators.
…
Nabeel Silmi, a San Francisco State junior serving as spokesman for the General Union of Palestine Students, called the sanctions against his group unfair.
“Things were said on both sides. However, the whole GUPS [being held] responsible for everybody’s comments on May 7 is completely unacceptable. We have sanctions put on us now, but we are going to continue to work with the administration, let them know what our opinion is, and where we stand. On an organizational level, we didn’t do anything wrong,” Silmi said.
Orli Bein, graduate program coordinator for San Francisco Hillel, said the university “has taken some important steps” to improve the atmosphere on campus.
But she said the warning letter campus officials sent to Hillel was inappropriate because of “the extreme care we’ve taken to abide by the rules.”
Bein called the letter a misguided “effort to criticize both sides to seem impartial.”
REPLY TO MAX SAWICKY
Max Sawicky is linked over on the left, and I read his blog regularly. He currently has been mirroring Tim Blairs critique a day of Fisk with his own of Instapundit, which Ive found pretty amusing. Up until Friday.
Fridays post triggered a response, because in part here Max and I part company pretty dramatically in our interpretation of whats going on in the Middle East, and, by implication, what should go on.
First I have to say a few things before I get to the thing I can’t say. The bombings create awful tragedies. I’m agin’ ’em. As a recent statement by Edward Said confirms, they have greatly harmed the cause of Palestinian self-determination.
But other than instrumentally, theyre OK, Max? Is that really what you want to say here? They create tragedies, but if they worked, if they got the Palestinians their state, theyd be fine?
I wish the Palestinians had launched a Gandhi movement. If they had, no doubt the IDF would have started shooting them down and blowing them up, as it has for the past 65 years. In any case, under this scenario I believe that by now there would be an authentic Palestinian state on the West Bank and in Gaza. Imagine if half the Palestinian lives sacrificed thus far had been martyred in the context of non-violent resistance. (But have you ever wondered why nobody ever says, “I wish Israel would embark upon the path of non-violent resistance?” Never mind.)
The Israelis might have started by shooting, but British, who were easily more bloody-minded as the Israelis, lasted maybe what
ten years?
in the face of Gandhis movement? The Israelis, with their progressive politics, dependent on the goodwill and funds of Europe and the US, would have folded like wet matzoh if confronted with a coordinated, genuinely nonviolent nationalist Palestinian movement.
And the Israelis have tried nonviolent means in the past. An Israeli PM was assassinated for moving the country toward peace, while political figures in Palestine are assassinated for proposing peace.
Now the part I can’t say. The point of all this, getting back to IP, is that the Times article gives no hint of the bombers being either psychotic or a ‘cult.’ To the contrary, the dilemma reported is that the bombers seem to fit no profile that would facilitate their neutralization. Apparently, anyone could be a bomber, and this is said, understandably, to have the Israeli government perturbed.
Actually, Max, its funny. I grew up in California in the late 60s and 70s, and saw the heyday of the cults here. My second wife was aggressively recruited by a cult, and I had friends who fell into cults from EST to Lifespring and others. So my antennae are fairly cult-sensitive, and as I read the article about the failed murder bombers, my immediate thought was Wow! Theyre being processed like new cult members! Quick decision, isolation, and boom! From the Times article:
A chain of events was dragging her down with a speed that left her frozen, unthinking.
It was only five days before that she had offered her services and maybe her life to a member of a violent Palestinian group in Bethlehem. It was only the day before, she recalled, that her offer had been suddenly, even greedily, accepted.
It was only on this day, Wednesday, May 22, that she had been pulled away from a marketing lecture at Bethlehem University, shown the backpack and how to trigger the bomb inside, put in a beat-up car with another would-be killer, and sent on, dressed to pass as an Israeli woman.
From an article in Haaretz, about a meeting between the Israeli Defense Minister and the failed murder-bombers:
Ben-Eliezer: You have parents, brothers, sisters, family, friends. Did you think about them?
Stiti: Yes.
Ben-Eliezer: Did they know?
Stiti: Yes. My parents begged me not to do it. My father told me that I’d be very sorry if I dared to go ahead, but it didn’t convince me. What they told me at the mosque was more powerful. They told me to just think about the commandment and the reward, up above, in Paradise, with the virgins that would be waiting for me and all the honor I would receive.
WOODY ALLEN SAW IT ALL
Woody Allen’s prescient 1966 take on the Palestinian State question:
Majah: Good afternoon. I am the Grand Exalted High Majah of Raspur, a nonexistent but real-sounding country.
Phil Moscowitz: Uh-huh.
Majah: Yes. We’re on a waiting list. As soon as there’s an opening on the map, we’re next.
From ‘What’s Up, Tiger Lily?’. His first, and funny film. They aren’t any more. But sometimes that’s just the way the Jell-O judicates…
WANT TO KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST?
Why write it yourself when Den Beste says it perfectly for you?
– There will be a Palestinian State.
– If it is to happen without triggering a far worse war, it must happen after the current Palestinian culture of death and conquest is destroyed.
– The question is what it will take to destroy that culture.
Note: Just noticed that N.Z. Bear made pretty much exactly the same comment here. Charles Fort raises an eyebrow…
REPOST FROM MAY…
JULY 4 WARNINGS??
A lot of news coverage on potential Islamicist threats to US targets on July 4 (see this CNN article); something jogged my memory, and it occurred to me:
July 4 is also the date of the famous Battle of Hattin/Tiberias, at which Saladin defeated Guy, King of Jerusalem and his army of Crusaders and effectively ended the Frankish occupation of Palestine.
Since we know Al Queida knows their history, Id be definitely be in Condition Yellow that day.
MO' CHURCHILL
Ive read Cold Fury for a while, and only through boneheaded oversight havent put a link to him up. Ill fix that this weekend.
Found this today, in response to the Asparagirl hooha. Go read the rest, its great.
No matter how Churchill might have felt in his darker private moments during WW2, he never gave in to the kind of defeatism implicit in Jeff’s reading of Brooke’s post. If he ever even expressed the smallest navel-gazing doubt, I’ve never heard about it. Maybe my knowledge of the man isn’t what it should be, but it seems to me the free world needs all the Churchills it can get; it always does, but especially now. There are quite enough doomsayers out there on the left side of the political equation, and they neither need nor deserve any encouragement from the rest of us. They can’t be allowed to win the day, because if they win, all of us lose. ALL of us.
The great conflict of our age will be resolved. Whether it will be resolved in a way favorable to freedom and the advancement of the human spirit or to repression and religious despotism will be decided by our own resolve both as a nation and as individuals. In fact, in the end they’re one and the same thing. Those of us who truly believe in freedom must not give up. It’s that simple. If our leaders lose sight of the objective, they must be brought back around or they must be replaced. The leaders must themselves occasionally be led.
The last few months have been especially frustrating, with Bush failing to adequately support Israel as they fight what we all know is the same war he once seemed so committed to. There have been a few encouraging signs of life lately, although not near enough yet, as far as I’m concerned. The rest of the world condemns every reflexive move Israel makes if such moves threaten to make the enemies of freedom, whether in Ramallah or Jenin or Riyadh or Damascus or Cairo, slightly uncomfortable. A great many opinion-shapers and world leaders appear to be wearing some sort of strange blinders which allow them to see fault only on Israel’s side and enabling them to ignore the most elementary lessons of history. The idea of a Palestinian state has become something of a fait accompli in certain quarters, without regard to what form such a state might take, the effect it might have on Israeli security, and even whether such a thing is historically justified or not.
And meanwhile, not just coincidentally but as a result, the suicide-murderers have continued to wreak their bloody havoc. The people who put these simple-minded dupes up to their despicable acts are not stupid; in fact, they are descended from a line of Machiavellian tribal despots stretching far back into human history who know how to manipulate events and gullible people and who have no moral strictures against using any means whatsoever to hold onto power. Dishonesty is merely another tool of statecraft for them. They know that there are some fools in the world who, whether motivated by pity or something more sinister, will want to buy the particular brand of snake-oil they’re selling. And as long as that remains the case, they’ll keep right on peddling it. It’s their only hope.
But I think their hope might just be fading. Call me a Pollyanna if you like (yeah right), but I’m beginning to feel in my gut that the more astute among the Arab world know the tide is turning against them and their phony concern for the “rights” of the Palestinians. I don’t have anything to back that up with, but I feel that way just the same. With each new round of outrages the Palestinians lose a little more sympathy, because each time the veil of lies their leaders hide behind is lifted a little higher, and sympathy is what they absolutely must have to continue to survive. It’s the one thing they cannot live without. It’s hard to claim to occupy the moral high ground when you’re murdering children, and it’s even harder to maintain the illusion that you care about morality at all when the world sees you murdering children every damned day.
So we all need to hold onto that anger. Losing our sense of outrage over, well, outrageous acts is not something we can afford to do. Not now, not ever. Because as long as we still have the capacity for outrage, we can still win this war.
I had hopes that GW had some Churchill in him, at the State of the Union Address back then. I stopped calling him “shrub”, and everything. I’m still hoping, but I’m an optimistic bastard by nature. For a while, anyway.
DRUGS
Just coming out of the post-general anesthesia/day of painkillers haze; I stopped the painkillers (anyone want a months supply of Vicodan?) before I went to bed because they make my brain turn into sludge and make me want to throw up
Ive broken my nose before, so its not all that big a deal.
Started me thinking about the Dawn/Eric Olsen dialog about their childs birth and the hassle they had between them. First, I think its amazingly cool that partners can sit down and be so publicly honest; something tells me thats a very strong relationship.
My take on the whole childbirth/drugs thing was settled during the Lamaze class I went to with my first wife for our Biggest Guys birth. The moms were all talking each other up about making it through drug-free as we husbands all looked nervously at each other in the background. Then one mom
a pert young actress we called Annie Hall at home, looked around the room and explained: most of my adult life Ive been trying to get good drugs. Now, the first time I really get to take them for any kind of a reason, youre telling me I shouldnt?
Biggest guy was with an epidural; Middlest Guy was born so damn quickly the OB never even got there
the nurses delivered him without drugs or complications. Littlest Guy was induced after about twelve hours of desultory labor, so epiduraled there again.
Fundamentally, childbirth is amazingly physically and emotionally stressful; I give incredible honor to the women who go through it, and Im jealous at the same time. I cant imagine what it must be like outside a modern hospital
Notice that I didnt try and talk the surgeon out of giving me a general yesterday
but believe me, I felt miserable yesterday, and the pain/discomfort today is much less than the nausea-stupidity/discomfort yesterday.
BTW, the war on drugs is a farce. Ill add that to the in-box and see what I can do.